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Provokasi Polis? #Respect blogger pro-pembangkang dedahkan @anwaribrahim dalang rempuhan demo haram #bersih?

Posted: 29 Apr 2012 05:30 PM PDT

Provokasi oleh polis? Apa kata blogger pro-pembangkang Amenoworld?

Konspirasi serangan dataran merdeka terdedah.

SUNDAY, APRIL 29, 2012

Benarlah kata orang kebenaran tidak boleh diselindungkan.

Bersih neh under sapa?

Ambiga dan kali neh kita ada A.Samad Said. Dengar citer a.samad said terduduk di satu sudut dengan wajah yang sayu dan bagitau dia kepenatan ketika berdemo. Betul ke itu hal sebenarnya?

Kalaupun ada orang yang layak memberikan arahan untuk langgar penghadang, orang itu hanya ambiga atau a.samad said ataupun kedua2 insan neh. Tiada orang lain berhak. Apatah lagi ambiga dah keluarkan arahan kita takan langgar sekatan polis.

Angah kbsb, better ko delete kembali memori wassap kita tadi. Aku dah menyesal sekarang. Menyesal habis.

Nak salahkan sb yang rempuh dataran merdeka? Betul ka sb yang pergi memandai2 rempuh? Lue salahkan dulu sapa yang bagi arahan. Patutla member2 gua dah bagi hint.. kalau taktau jangan cakap der.. gua pun pelik gak. Tatau apa?

Perhimpunan neh sepatutnya perhimpunan aman. Tapi ada orang otak senget menjadikan ia huru hara. Ambiga, kali neh saya bersetuju marilah kita bersama2 mempertimbangkan semula dengan siapa kita bersama.

Lihat bawah. Kebenaran di hadapan anda.

 

Ini ialah perhimpunan aman. Dsai tak sepatutnya bagi isyarat suruh rempuh halangan. Lepas tue bila rakyat kena serang dia kat mana? Bila rakyat kena balon, dia kat mana? Dsai bagi isyarat, barulah rakyat naik semangat slogankan suruh masuk di waktu chegu bard bagi ucapan bahawa kita tak boleh melepasi sekatan sebab polis tak bagi kebenaran. Apa benda tue?

Demm.

Nak hentam aku? Aku dah agak tegar dsai bersepah. Tapi aku tegar fakta. Aku tak peduli dengan sentimen korang. Aku hanya mahu peduli dengan sentimen rakyat.

1. Dsai bagi arahan = isyarat.

2. Azmin ali menyampaikan isyarat dsai. Ada facebooker cakap azmin ali yang bagi kebenaran tapi kalau lue tengok video di atas neh jelaskan yang azmin hanya membenarkan apa yang dsai arahkan. Arahan tidak keluar dari mulut azmin sendiri.

3. Lepas tue rakyat dok rempuh. Itupun sebab dah dapat greenlight. Yang rempuh tue kita tatau nak cakap apa. Mungkin dia lupa bahawa boss bersih ialah ambiga dan a.samad said bukan dsai.

4. Lepas kena rempuh, baru polis bertindak balas.

5. Jadi seterusnya apa yang berlaku, lue sendiri yang cari pasal.

6. Dengan neh gua surrender dengan segala bagai pendedahan sebab rasa malu. Ada macam2 info bab dataran yang gua dapat. Tapi gua nak masukkan dalam bakol sampah. Erase. Delete. G mampos. Walaupun gua tahu sb memang bersepah tapi gua reti malu bila tengok video kat atas neh. Gua dah taknak amek port pasal isu dataran merdeka lagi dah. Bab sogo dan masjid jamek je gua nak cover.

7. Kalau polis pukul lue di dataran merdeka, itu masalah orang yang bagi arahan.

8. Lepas tue sentimen tersebut mungkin meleret2 di bawa sampai ke sogo.

9. Nasib baik sampai masjid jamek kami kembali bertenang.

10. Dalam pada itu tak kurang berita2 bahawa kematian peserta2 bersih dihebahkan dari mulut ke mulut untuk menaikkan semangat rakyat.

11. Mula2 gua fikir neh kerja sb.

12. Tapi rasanya better gua berfikir semula dan kumpul segala bukti yang ada sebelum buat analisis ia disebarkan oleh sb. Boleh jadi ia bukanlah sebagaimana yang gua sangka. 

Dan, nasihat gua kepada diri gua sendiri, gua kena fikir masak2. Gua kali neh benar2 terkejut. Sampai taktau nak gambarkan sejauh mana gua terkejut. Bai.

Lupa, gua juga nak sesiapa bertanggungjawab bersihkan kembali nama unit amal yang teruk kena kecam. Lue yang pandai2 bagi isyarat apahal unit amal pula kena kecam? Lue jangan nak lepas tangan. Tenkiu.

Tak boleh tengok ye? Klik sini ==> https://www.facebook.com/my.remi/posts/282475921844299?notif_t=share_reply

Kredit kepada rakan reporter yang upload kebenaran neh. Thanks.

Ameno : Bagi arahan suruh rempuh halangan = beri keizinan untuk peserta melakukan provokasi. 


Read more: http://amenoworld.blogspot.com/2012/04/konspirasi-serangan-dataran-merdeka.html#ixzz1tSlsA3Nj

[Video] insiden sebenar vs video voice-over rekaan untuk tipu rakyat? Satu lagi penipuan #bersih?

Posted: 29 Apr 2012 01:15 PM PDT

Anda berhak saman Ambiga jika saudara atau rakan anda jadi mangsa demo haram #Bersih

Posted: 29 Apr 2012 08:30 AM PDT


Adakah saudara atau rakan anda menjadi mangsa peserta Bersih? Rakyat berhak marah kepada Ambiga yang menganjurkan acara yang dia tidak mampu kawal. Sebelum mengadakan sesuatu acara penganjur mesti mempunyai senarai semak untuk memastikan keselamatan peserta dan orang awam. Jika tidak mereka sengaja mengambil risiko. Ambiga selaku penganjur demonstrasi ini harus bertanggung jawab kerana gagal memastikan keselamatan penjawat awam dan harta benda kerajaan. Ambiga harus bertanggung jawab atas kehilangan nyawa, kecederaan setiap peserta, orang awam dan penjawat awam. Pada waktu yang sama Ambiga juga mesti bertanggung jawab dan membayar ganti rugi terhadap semua kerosakan harta benda awam dan kerajaan akibat tindakan ganas peserta demonstrasi haram Bersih. 



1. KPL 165534 MOHD FAIRUZ BIN ZULKIFLI, ANGGOTA CAWANGAN TRAFIK KUALA LUMPUR, MENGALAMI KECEDERAAN LUKA DAN CALAR DI BADAN AKIBAT DITENDANG DAN DIPIJAK OLEH PESERTA PERHIMPUNAN. BELIAU DIRAW...AT DI HKL.

2. KPL 141269 ABU BAKAR BIN ABDUL RAHMAN, ANGGOTA IPD PUTRAJAYA, MENGALAMI KECEDERAAN PECAH DIBIBIR, BENGKAK BAWAH MATA KIRI DAN KESAKITAN DI BADAN AKIBAT DITUMBUK DAN DIBALING OBJEK SEHINGGA TERJATUH DARIPADA MOTOSIKAL. BELIAU DIRAWAT DI PPUKM.

3. KONST 171506 AZIZI BIN MOHD NOH, ANGGOTA CAWANGAN TRAFIK BUKIT AMAN, MENGALAMI KECEDERAAN DI PIPI AKIBAT DIBALING OBJEK KERAS DAN MENDAPAT RAWATAN DI HKL.

4. L/KPL 152574 MOHD NASIR BIN ABU MANSUR, ANGGOTA CAWANGAN TRAFIK KUALA LUMPUR, MENGALAMI KESAKITAN BADAN DAN TIDAK BOLEH DUDUK AKIBAT TERJATUH MOTOSIKAL DAN DIPUKUL DI PERUT. BELIAU DIRAWAT DI HKL.

5. L/KPL 157576 DATU MOHD JOHAR DATU SHARIMAN, ANGGOTA CAWANGAN TRAFIK KUALA LUMPUR, MENGALAMI KECEDERAAN DI MATA AKIBAT DITUMBUK OLEH PESERTA PERHIMPUNAN. BELIAU MENERIMA RAWATAN SEBAGAI PESAKIT LUAR DI HKL.

6. KONST 178857 MOHD NOR FIRDAUS BIN HJ ABU BAKAR, ANGGOTA IPD PUTRAJAYA, MENGALAMI KECEDERAAN RETAK TULANG LENGAN KANAN DAN DIRAWAT DI PPUKM.

7. KONST 175128 MOHD KAMIL BIN PARIMIN, ANGGOTA IPK TERENGGANU, MENERIMA 7 JAHITAN DI KEPALA DAN DIRAWAT DI HKL.

8. KONST 179689 ZAMAN BIN ALI, ANGGOTA BALAI POLIS WANGSA MAJU, MENGALAMI KECEDERAAN PATAH HIDUNG DAN DIRAWAT DI HKL.

9. SJN 84797 SHUIB BIN JAMALUDDIN, ANGGOTA IPD KANGAR, SAKIT DARAH TINGGI DAN DIRAWAT DI HKL.

10. L/KPL 124962 TUAN RUZI BIN TUAN SENG, ANGGOTA IPD MACHAP JOHOR, KECEDERAAN PATAH DUA BATANG GIGI, KOYAK DI BAHAGIAN BIBIR (7 JAHITAN DI DALAM BIBIR), DAN LEBAM SELURUH BADAN. BELIAU DIRAWAT DI HKL.

11. L/KPL 157813 AMIRUL BIN NAWRI, ANGGOTA BALAI POLIS PORT DICKSON, MENGALAMI SESAK NAFAS AKIBAT DITUMBUK. BELIAU DIRAWAT DI HKL.

Gambar khayalan peyokong #Bersih selepas hidu gam vs Gambar Sebenar

Posted: 29 Apr 2012 05:00 AM PDT


Secara Rasionalnya - Bersih 3.0 Gagal

Saya berada di sana petang semalam, berjalan dari Dataran Merdeka ke Puduraya, Pudu Raya ke Dataran Merdeka semula, kot ya pun jangan la menipu dengan gambar photoshop seperti di atas. Gambar di bawah lebih logik. Selepas McDonald ke atas sehingga Masjid Jamek dan kosong. Begitu juga dari sebelum Kota Raya sehingga Pudu Raya juga kosong. Budak-budak PR dan orang asing yang kurang data analisis dan tidak turun ke bawah boleh  la u all tipu.

[Video] Teh Tarik Bersama YB Kamalanathan: #Bersih demo not valid?!

Posted: 29 Apr 2012 02:00 AM PDT

[Video] Blogger UMB sahkan peserta #Bersih punca sebenar kereta POLIS Terbabas @PDRMsia

Posted: 28 Apr 2012 10:42 PM PDT

Aksi Ganas Peserta #Bersih: Ambiga mesti bertanggung jawab!

Posted: 28 Apr 2012 10:29 PM PDT


Setiap penganjur program kena bertanggung jawab di atas setiap program yang mereka anjurkan. Jika tidak mampu kawal crowd maka jangan anjurkan program dalam jumlah yang besar. Kita mahu Ambiga bertanggung jawab sebagai penganjur program terhadap setiap salah laku peserta program anjurannya. Pada waktu yang sama, 
Ambiga mesti membayar segala ganti rugi kehilangan nyawa, kecederaan dan kerosakan harta benda akibat program anjurannya.
Baca lagi di http://panggungopera.blogspot.com/2012/04/depa-kata-moto-polis-ni-sb-yang.html

#MentalitiTerjajah Tempoh Kempen Pilihan Raya: Orang Asing elok tengok nasib aborigines di negara sendiri

Posted: 26 Apr 2012 10:03 AM PDT

Pembangkang masih mempunyai mentaliti terjajah; masih fikir apa saja dari Barat atau Orang Asing lebih baik, walaupun hakikatnya kenyataan yang dibuat adalah kenyataan yang bodoh. Asal nampak mat salleh je ingat diaorg pandai. Failed!


Kenyataan Mat Salleh Paling Bangang 

Tentang Pilihanraya Negara Kita!

http://novandri.blogspot.com/2012/04/kenyataan-mat-salleh-paling-bangang.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+novandri+%28MINDA+INTELEK+MELAYU%29

Nama aja delegasi antarabangsa untuk misi siasatan pilihanraya di Malaysia tetapi input yang diberikan oleh mereka itu sungguh memalukan dan tampak bangang!

Malah, budak sekolah rendah pun tahu kenyataan delegasi antarabangsa itu tidak masuk akal dan memperbodoh-bodohkan delegasi tersebut.

Kenapa MiM berkata demikian? Anda baca dulu laporan di bawah :
Delegasi antarabangsa untuk misi siasatan pilihan raya di Malaysia hari ini mendapati terdapat tiga isu utama kekurangan dalam sistem pengundian negara ini.

Senator Nicholas Xenophon dari Australia berkata, antara isu yang dikenalpasti mengenai tempoh berkempen yang pendek selama 10 hari.

Di Australia kempen sekurang-kurangnya selama 33 hari dan di India dan Pakistan 90 hari, yang mana lebih lama berbanding di sini," katanya pada sidang media selepas mengadakan pertemuan bersama Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz di Parlimen, pagi tadi. seterusnya
Kenyataan dangkal Nicholas Xenophon itu jelas telah memperbodoh-bodohkan diri beliau dan tampak beliau tidak faham ilmu geografi!

Ada sebab mudah yang mungkin menyebabkan Australia berkempen selama 33 hari, India dan Pakistan 90 hari.

Budak sekolah rendah pun tahu ketiga-tiga negara tersebut mempunyai keluasan tanah yang jauh lebih besar daripada Malaysia. Kita boleh bandingkan di bawah :

1. Keluasan tanah negara Malaysia :


2. Keluasan tanah negara India :


3. Keluasan tanah negara Pakistan :


4. Keluasan tanah negara Australia :


Ketiga-tiga negara contoh itu ternyata sangat luas jika dibandingkan dengan negara Malaysia. Malah struktur geografi yang merumitkan di Pakistan, India dan Australia sudah tentu akan merumitkan lagi proses berkempen dan kerana itu masa yang lebih panjang diperlukan untuk berkempen.

Malah, infrastruktur asas serta komunikasi negara Malaysia jauh lebih baik jika dibandingkan dengan ketiga-tiha negara contoh tersebut!

Di Malaysia, hanya 17 parti politik yang bertanding. Beratus parti bertanding di India. baca sini.

Pakistan juga mempunyai jumlah parti politik yang banyak. baca sini

Pokoknya, alasan yang diberikan oleh delegasi antarabangsa kepada tempoh berkempen di negara ini tidak boleh dipakai dan perkara ini sudah tentu akan memalukan serta merendahkan kredibiliti agensi tersebut.

Sungguh memalukan.

[Video] Exco AMK kurang ajar dengan petugas DBKL, nak tengok bila tua dia jadi apa?

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 11:30 PM PDT


Budak-budak PR masa kecik diajar jadi biadap dan kurang ajar


Tua nanti budak-budak PR ni nanti akan tetap jadi biadap dan kurang ajar macam dia ni :) berlakon macam homeless dalam Bersih 2.0; rupanya hanya watak untuk menipu dan menagih simpati rakyat

[Video] Anak siapa tidur satu khemah dengan Fahmi Reza ni? Demo #MansuhPTPTN rosakkan mahasiswa..

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 09:30 PM PDT


Hmmm...... mana mak ayah diaorang ni?





Tanpa Segan Silu Mahasiswa Yang 
Sedang Berdemo Tidur Atas Riba Awek
http://sel-13.blogspot.com/2012/04/tanpa-segan-silu-mahasiswa-yang-sedang.html


Siang tadi pembaca-pembaca internet telah ditunjukan satu video yang memaparkan seorang penuntut yang bernama Fahmi Reza berada bersama wanita dalam satu khemah di Dataran Merdeka.


Dibawah ini gambar yang sempat sel13 rakam secara curi-curi dua hari lepas di Dataran Merdeka yang menunjukan Fahmi sedang tidur diatas riba seorang wanita.




Untuk pengetahuan pembaca internet sekalian, wanita tersebut adalah teman wanita Fahmi. Wanita tersebut berbangsa cina. 


Nama : Liew XXX Svoon
IC No: 830925-01-5XX6


Fahmi yang dikenali sebagai seorang sosialis telah lama tinggal satu rumah dengan teman wanitanya. Sebab itu dia tidak segan-segan untuk tidur dalam satu khemah bersama teman wanitanya.

[VIDEO PENUH] Debat #ElectoralTransformation @KhairyKJ - Ambiga #Bersih3 #DebatPRU

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 07:30 PM PDT



KJ perbudakkan Ambiga dan dedahkan kelemahan kajian Ong Kian Meng?

[Video] Debat: Pusingan ke-2 @KhairyKJ balun Ambiga, Ambiga TKO kali ke-2 #ElectoralTransformation #Bersih

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 06:30 PM PDT

[Transkrip] Debat: Ambiga TKO, @KhairyKJ balun dari mula sampai habis #ElectoralTransformation #Bersih3

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 02:56 PM PDT


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KJ pukul Ambiga dari mula sampai habis

Spark the Debate 2 - live feed
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 25, 2012 - 22:12
by The Malay Mail Team




Before the battle

PETALING JAYA: Three days to the scheduled Bersih gathering and The Malay Mail has organised the second installation of Spark the Debate featuring Bersih 3.0 co-chair Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan and Umno Youth chief Khairy Jamaluddin.

Yayasan Orator CEO Muhammad Yunus Zakariah will be moderating tonight's event entitled 'Electoral Reform: Is enough being done?' at The Club@Bukit Utama, Bukit Utama Golf Course in Bandar Utama.



7.30pm - Guests arrive at The Club, filling up the empty seats very quickly. A long queue is outside as guests patiently file up for registration.

7.50pm - Ambiga has arrived and we are awaiting KJ's arrival.

7.57pm - Almost full house and guests are still walking in. Quite a number wearing yellow t-shirts.

8.11pm - Seats are all taken up and some lucky ones who managed to get into the hall are standing at the back just so they won't miss out on the action.

8.16pm - Khairy has arrived. The entrance doors have been closed and News Editor Ahmad Najmuddin Najib takes the mic to ask the attendees to take a seat.

8.18pm - UStream feed and The Malay Mail website may be experiencing slow feed because online traffic to both websites are at its peak.

8.19pm - Ahmad Najmuddin makes announcement that both speakers are making their way to the hall.

8.22pm - Crowd gives a big round of applause to both speakers as they make their way in.

8.24pm - Ahmad Najmuddin welcomes everyone with a little background of Spark the Debate. As he introduces the speakers, the crowd responds as if to compete in how loud they are and who they support.

8.27pm - Managing Editor Terence Fernandez says a few words saying "we are all friends ... Good evening friends". The Malay Mail was turned away by many who were uncomfortable with subject of debate, Fernandez says. Thanks the crowd for supporting this cause and staking "your claim as Malaysians who care a d***".

8.34pm - Crowd outside still wanting to come in the hall but because the hall is full, they are turned down. 

8.38pm - Moderator Muhammad Yunus is introduced 

8,40pm - A little bit of a comedy moment as both speakers take their positions at the podium

8.40pm - Ambiga: Neither the PM nor Bersih 2.0 is going to get there in the 13th GE (clean electoral roll). Ong Kian Ming's three-month research is just the tip of the iceberg - uncovering 10 things wrong with the electoral roll.

8.42pm - Some of the points she raised in Ong's research are more than 1,000 voters are aged 100 and above. 15,855 voters whose IC numbers indicate a different gender than EC's roll. Shows that a possibility that a person of a different gender registered to use the IC. There is much speculation that non-Malaysians given citizenships and hence voting rights. Cases highlighted under the 10 categories looked at covers 100,000 cases. Ong did another piece of research that shows 3.1 million voters whose IC addresses shows different constituency in which the voter is actually voting in. "Someone's IC shows he is voter of A constituency but he's voting in B constituency". Information was given to EC by NRD in the year 2002 and the EC has done nothing about it. 65,000 foreigners were found in electoral roll and people who have been removed or added. EC seems to be giving the impression only 42,000 doubtful voters. When they downplay it saying "it's a small number" it is a highly irresponsible statement. PSC did not even scratch the problem. EC also never raised them with the PSC. I would have thought that the EC would have had full disclosure with the PSC with these. Postal voters is another big issue. It is vulnerable to election rigging. There has been cases of ballots being sold - also a problem with postal voting. In Sibu by-election - postal votes made the difference. PSC did not study this issue. Our quarrel with PSC is that they didn't study the issue of security. To date we haven't seen any regulation for Parliament laid by the EC in relation to these. Overseas voters (last point). How can we deprive people of their right to vote because of logistics?! 

8.51pm - Khairy takes the floor. 


Malay Mail Debate



8.52pm - Khairy: We share concerns ... We were teargassed by same police force last year. I take a different perspective. Her decision to go ahead with Bersih 3.0 on Saturday is something that is preemptive and prejudicial in terms of the reforms that are taking place. For me, just like the PM, I hold to one principle - that the next GE must be the freest and the fairest. Winner must win with honour and loser lose with dignity. I know you support me but please don't waste my time (to applauding crowd). As a BN MP and chief of Umno and BN Youth I support all parties have same amount of time and access to rakyat through media. Many of the PSC recommendations are time bound - I put it to Datuk Ambiga why are you preempting these reforms. I respect your right to freedom to go on the street but why preempt it? Fraudulent figures, Khairy says, are published in flyer. My problem is misrepresentation. 42,051 - the history of these cases considered to be dodgy or dubious. Last year, the EC asked NRD to go through the whole electoral list. 12.5 million people - check for suspicious, inactive people. NRD said 42,051 people - we don't have updates for them. Bersih will have you believe that they are fraudulent voters. IF they were, the EC would not have displayed them for three months. But they did for everyone to see whether or not they were still alive. If within three months nobody has come forward to say that I'm still alive or my father has passed on, I would go with her and say strike them off the list. But in the three months 1,248 cases came forward. 55% of which are still alive. They came forward and said I'm still here. If the EC struck them out of the electoral roll, the EC would have done something illegal and denied these people their right to vote, under the Federal Constitution. If you go with her argument that they are fraudulent voters and we must strike them out then you are putting your argument on very shaky grounds. I ask Datuk Ambiga once again, out of the remainder now that 1,248 people come forward, can you tell be with absolute certainty that all of them are fraudulent voters? Just one concrete example why the fundamental basis of asking people to go out on Saturday is a misrepresentation of the facts.

9.03pm - Ambiga: I tell you where the fraud lies. It is with the lame excuse that EC cannot do anything about it. EC is busy removing and adding people. Under the law, Regulation 13 gives them the power to revise the supplementary roll once in every three months. There is a procedure. They need to make house to house or other inquiries or send a notice asking for notification. If they don't respond, to be struck out. He is talking about 42,000 people! What about the three million? This is all I ask for. Put us in the room with the EC and then let us fight it out! I need to tell you about fraud. The PSC recommended a royal commission of inquiry into Sabah. What do you think that is about? That's about fraud. That is phantom voters!

9.06pm - Khairy: Let me just address why EC won't use that power. Precisely because of the 1,248 voters who are still there. The EC, by the way, has given assurance to continue to look for them. And one way is to allow them to vote. The only mistake they (voters) have done is not update their IC. You say, (in your flier) 31,000 voters have been transferred from their constituencies, including Selangor MB Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim. Khairy cites geographical location of addresses used by Abdul Khalid when he registered. This is not transferring of voters. This is looking at Google Earth and realising where the borders are. I can tell you for a fact that he does not live in PJ anymore. He lives in Shah Alam - the MB Official Residence. If he has not bothered to change his own address ... What more?

9.10pm - The session is open to the floor for answers. Participant says the issue that Bersih is going to the ground for is much bigger than the 42,000 people. Excitement erupts from the floor ... Khairy: I'm not saying you're going because of the 42,000 people. I'm saying you're going out because of misrepresentation. I picked cases that I've taken. I have no time to go through every single one. These are some of the cases of misrepresentations. I have respect for her (Datuk Ambiga). There has to be a border (referring to Google Earth). My issue is very simple. These issues are very complexed and detailed based on laws, regulations and precedence. The only way you're talking to EC is through press conferences etc ... When EC came two weeks ago came for breifing only 10 Pakatan MPs showed up. I know Ambiga is very disappointed with PR for hijacking Bersih. Bersih submission was 34 pages long. Azmin minority report was three pages long. Come with us - come to EC I will be there. Let us look at the names, the numbers and let us address.

Ambiga: The difference between you and me is that you believe what EC says. WE don't. We don't have confidence in EC. We will debate it. That's what we want. We want to raise a point, EC can raise theirs.

Khairy: You say you don't trust the EC. You have been on record to say they must resign. So what is the point of asking to see them? We want a solution. Can I ask you a question. If there is an EC answer, will you accept it or you're saying you're not going to accept it?

Ambiga: Last Thursday, this piece of legislation was rushed through in Parliament. The Election Offences Act. The booth provided by EC, then a sub 2 and sub 3 allowing agents of an election candidate to be present. They have deleted that. That means in the booth, you will only have EC. Which means people who walk in you own't be able to check. Reasoning is there is too much problems without being able to cite them. Use of indelible ink is no use because you can't tell from that distance if their finger is marked. No independent arbitrator which means making Nero Fire chief! All we ask is please guarantee that you will implement, delay the elections, please! Delay the elections. Give us time. In July last year civil society offered to sit in a non-partisan group - all political parties represented and civil society - and we said form an independent panel and we will help clean up the electoral roll. If we had done that in July last year, we would have been done by now. We fear this is going to be the dirtiest election. We want a new set of people who are not going to behave like civil servants. We are happy to sit with all the MPs to sit and hear us out - hear our figures out. 

Khairy: We are expecting a spirit of cooperation. If ultimately you said you cannot work with the EC - you cannot cooperate with them, don't trust them. Then you've put it front and centre that this election is going to be dirty. But you don't accept (reasons). Even the issue of borders you want to reject. Burden of proof on our electoral system is that you have to inform the EC. This is something we can talk on the long term. Fundamental issue is that you don't trust the EC and I'm having a tough time trusting you tonight.

Ambiga: If EC had invited us to the briefing, we would have gone. 

Khairy: Likewise, if you say there is no point talking to EC everytime you ask them to resign. I'm here as a man of peace. 

Ambiga: Are you giving a guarantee that BErsih's demand n th ePSC's recommendation will be implemented before the next GE. May not be in your hands I know (aplause from crowd). 

Khairy: Datuk, I know la you look down on me. But I came here to talk to you and although it's beyond my powers. I give you my assurance that if you are asking for a meeting with Election Commission, I will try my best.

9.29pm - Khairy: We all play by the rules. If we lose an election, we lose an election just as we handed over Penang, Selangor - Kelantan in every election, Perak - for a while in 2008. If we lose, as far as I'm concerned I can give you assurance that Malaysia, as a respected democracy - if we lose, we lose.

9.31pm - Irene Fernandez: Bersih is walking not because of Ambiga but because rakyat has lost confidence.

Khairy: All of us purport to do things in the name of the rakyat. So do I ... I'm not saying you're going out there because of Ambiga. Don't perpetuate misrepresentations that I've cited tonight. 

Ambiga: Let's wait to see if there is a spike in postal voters because they are for sale, literally.

Khairy: Fair enough.

9.38pm - A member of the audience asks about Malaysians abroad and their right to vote.

Ambiga: It is up to the government to make it happen. Our quarrel with PSC is they said due to logistics, they are not going to force EC to make it happen. The govenrment is not taking any steps to ensure that these voters are allowed to.

Khairy: We are in agreement that they have to vote but I disagree nothing is being done. There is a time bound recommendation for EC to study ... I checked with EC if they have started discussion with Foreign Affairs Ministry and they have. Many Malaysians overseas do not register with commissions, embassies. But we have received positive feedback from EC that they are making headway in making it possible. 

Ambiga: Again, I'm sounding like a broken record, will it be done before the GE? 

Khairy: As much as you want me to be the PM, I don't know when the elections are.

Muhammad Yunus: Spike in Pantai does not necessarily mean increased votes for BN. What is your comment on that?

Ambiga: When Nurul Izzah had her election workers to go round and check her electoral roll. They were arrested twice. All they were doing was what EC should be doing lah. Both times - both weekends - they were arrested. They were stopped from doing that check. What does that tell you? What does it tell you when there is political violence? Is there a sense of desperation? It's important. I have made a call for both Opposition Leader and the Prime Minister let it be a bipartisan approach condemning political violence. This political violence. Let us all condemn it together. It cannot be right. (Applause from the crowd).

Khairy: No quarrel on that.

Ambiga: Can you pass the message?

Khairy: Datuk Ambiga has single handedly made me an office boy. (Laughter from the floor)

Ambiga: Do not sneer the figures ... We are the rakyat and we expect our MPs to look into it. 

10pm - Muhammad Yunus gives five minutes each to speaker to wrap up.

Khairy: The one important take away is this is a part of our democratic culture. Secondly, by all means, on Saturday if you like, go out. We've offered Stadium Merdeka. It's not about Dataran Merdeka. It's about free and fair elections. There is an impasse here tonight. She doesn't trust the EC but all I'm saying is that if all the MPs - BN and PR - I ask you tongiht, as a Malaysian, let us go to the EC. LEt us look at the cases one by one. Let us sit down and get your asnwers from th eEC. No more press conferences no more shouting at each other. Let us be reasonable. I offer my hand to you tonight. Let's go.

AMbiga: I disagree that every Malaysian wants a free and fair election. I'm happy to have a discussion as you suggested but I would like our MPs there. It's frustrating that you're listening to the EC. With you on that. The issue about the offer to Stadium Merdeka - the only reason why we did not want it was because it would be a mess because there would be people in Dataran Merdeka and in Stadium Merdeka. When you're an MP, you have to be open minded and when we criticise EC, have us both there. So we can express and they can respond. Ultimately the question still comes back to this: Is the government committed to delay the elections to clean up the electoral rolls? Fulfil the basic demands, give us that commitment. That is all we're asking for. To date we haven't received that commitment.

10.05pm - Both speakers shake hands, marking the end of the debate.

2 mahasiswa IPTA tolak #DuitHaram pihak asing, dedah siapa latih dan tujuan demo

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 05:30 AM PDT



Panasss!! Mahasewel Dibayar Gaji Untuk Turun Berdemo???

Dua mahasiswa institusi pengajian tinggi awam (IPTA) mendedahkan, sebuah parti politik telah menaja mahasiswa untuk mempelajari dan berlatih cara mengadakan demonstrasi jalanan yang dianjurkan pertubuhan di negara luar termasuk Indonesia.
Tujuan utama kumpulan itu adalah bagi menimbulkan kekacauan dan provokasi kepada pihak berkuasa seterusnya menarik perhatian media serta pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) asing.

Sebelum dihantar mengikuti kursus 'demonstrasi jalanan' itu, mahasiswa itu dipujuk bagi mengikuti perjuangan parti politik berkenaan.

Seorang pelajar IPTA yang digantung pengajian dan sering kelihatan pada setiap demonstrasi jalanan yang membabitkan parti politik itu, turut dihantar bersama mereka ke Indonesia.

Selain itu, mereka juga dihantar ke lapangan bagi memerhatikan bagaimana peserta demonstrasi melakukan provokasi dan menimbulkan kekacauan kepada ketenteraman awam serta pihak berkuasa selain diajar mengenai doktrin manipulasi bagi mendapat perhatian awam dan paling utama media dan NGO asing.


Difahamkan parti itu semakin giat menghantar mahasiswa untuk tujuan itu, sejak tahun lalu.

Mereka juga dijanjikan pelbagai habuan termasuk wang ringgit dan semua perbelanjaan ditanggung oleh parti politik itu.

"Mereka juga diberi jaminan akan dibela dan 'dijaga' jika dikenakan tindakan disiplin atau undang-undang daripada pihak universiti dan pihak berkuasa.

Mahasiswa itu memberitahu, provokasi yang dilakukan amat penting bagi mendapat perhatian media asing yang kemudian akan merakamkannya sebelum menyiarkan ke seluruh dunia.

Mahasiswa itu turut ditanamkan dengan doktrin bahawa mereka dijulang sebagai wira jika gambar demonstrasi mereka disiarkan media antarabangsa.

Pendedahan mahasiswa ini memberi pengesahan dakwaan ada parti politik di negara ini menerima dana asing yang disalurkan NGO luar bagi menimbulkan kekacauan dalam negara ini.

Jika tidak masakan mahasiswa bersetuju dengan arahan dan menerima ideologi mereka termasuk mengadakan demonstrasi jalanan jika tidak dijanjikan kemewahan hidup selain dihantar ke luar negara untuk dilatih berdemonstrasi dengan segala perbelanjaan ditanggung.

Difahamkan pelajar institusi pengajian tinggi ini dihantar secara berperingkat sekurang-kurangnya 10 orang setiap perjalanan dan tinggal di negara yang dipilih kira-kira dua minggu.

Ada juga di antara mereka yang pulang ini melatih pelajar lain termasuk dari institusi pengajian tinggi swasta (IPTS).

Source : http://unitmediakedah.blogspot.com/2012/04/mahasiswa-dedahkan-mereka-ditaja-oleh.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&m=1
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MITOS dan FAKTA Malaysia Negara Zalim #TransformasiPolitik

Posted: 25 Apr 2012 02:35 AM PDT




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Di negara zalim Malaysia, rakyat boleh keluar dgn Porshe Cayenne, BMW, Mercedes, Accord & Camry utk berdemonstrasi - bawa ipad, BB & iPhone!
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - sebanyak RM2.1 billion diperuntukkan utk pinjaman perniagaan kredit mikro keluarga miskin melalui AIM.

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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - 35,095 (80%) Projek Perumahan Rakyat & Perumahan Awam DBKL ditawarkan utk jualan kpd penghuni semasa.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - 67% kanak-kanak mengikuti pendidikan pra-sekolah; lebih tinggi dari US (62%) atau China (42%). - Unesco
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - sebanyak 9,814 buah sekolah rendah dan menengah dibina utk rakyat pelbagai bangsa.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - dlm tempoh dua tahun, sehingga 2010, sebanyak 16,000 buah rumah org miskin dibina / dibaikpulih.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - dlm tempoh dua tahun, sehingga 2010, sebanyak 35,000 lagi rumah luar bandar dapat bekalan air bersih.

2h
Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - dlm tempoh dua tahun, sehingga 2010, sebanyak 27,000 buah rumah lagi mendapat bekalan elektrik.

2h
Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - dlm tempoh dua tahun, sehingga 2010, sepanjang 750km jalan kampung dibina.

2h
Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - pengguna internet meningkat dari 2.7 juta pada tahun 2000 kepada sekitar 18 juta pada tahun 2011.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - 35,095 buah rumah kos rendah ditawarkan kpd keluarga yang layak pada harga 75% nilai pasaran.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - kemiskinan tegar berkurangan sehingga 0.2% sehingga Disember, 2010.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - 700K kanak-kanak sdg mengikuti pendidikan pra-sekolah; bertambah sebanyak 54,569 org sejak 2009.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - jumlah profesional meningkat tiga kali ganda sejak tahun 2000.
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Kata mereka, Malaysia negara zalim - jumlah kemasukan pelajar peringkat tertiari meningkat sebanyak dua kali ganda, sejak 2000.
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