OutSyed The Box

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Talibanisation Of Putrajaya - Ali Hamsa Wake Up

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 08:50 PM PST

The unisex hair salon controversy in Kota Bharu has been quite an eye opener. The fact is only now it has become a media issue. The Kota Bharu folks proudly say that they have had these regulations for 10 years now. This is the creeping Talibanisation that has been going on in this country since the 1980s - since Anwar Ibrahim and the ABIM dunggus were co-opted into Government. Unfortunately only now we are reacting.

Here is more. This one involves the Federal Government in Putrajaya. Recently a group of about 40 college students (30 boys, 10 girls) visited the world renowned and award winning Diamond Building which houses the Energy Commission in Putrajaya (Suruhanjaya Tenaga). This was an official visit to study the building's design and aesthetics. Dr Soontom Boonyatikam of Thailand  was the principal architect for the Diamond Building.


The students piled into a small auditorium for a 'taklimat'. At the auditorium the students were told by a loud female security guard that the boys and girls must sit on different sides.  

This was obviously another "religious" ruling not unlike the hair dressing salon ruling in Kota Bharu.  But this is Putrajaya. Federal Territory. Barisan Nasional. Not Talibanistan. Not Kelantanistan.

Of the 40 students, only two girls and three boys were Muslim. The remaining 35 were non Muslims.  So 30 boys had to cram the seats all the way to the back rows whereas the 10 girls filled up only two rows in front. Half the auditorium was full and the other half was empty. Isnt that a silly way of using an auditorium?

These are students doing a "lawatan sambil belajar" thing - why not let them sit up front on whichever available empty seats where it would be easier for them to take notes, ask questions,  interact with the 'taklimat'  speaker and stuff? 

And it was a female security guard who was playing the role of the "religious watchdog" here. 

In Malaysia there is always an understood decorum at many public functions, whether it involves Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians etc.  There is always some tendency for the women to be on one side and the men to sit on another side. 

In Punjabi Sikh functions the women do not sit too freely with the men and vice versa. Even in Hindu weddings and functions there is some traditional  influence in the same direction. The men and women do sit apart - not very visibly apart but there is some decorum.  Of course in more modern social gatherings this may be a lot less.   

However none of this 'cultural etiquette' is written in stone.  They dont kill anyone in a Sikh wedding if the men and women sit near each other.  Neither will anyone shout at you or boss you around.  Just chill and be cool.

I frequently attend seminars at an Islamic Institute in Petaling Jaya (The International Institute of Advanced Islamic Studies at Jalan Elmu). The women sit to one side and the men sit on another side but this is NOT a fixed and fast or a written rule.  If the hall has many people attending then people sit where ever there are empty seats. No one gets killed, no men get molested by any women (or vice versa) just because they sit in the same rows.  So just relax ok. (Please stop thinking of sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex all the time. Kau orang ni psycho sex betul lah).

So what is going on in Putrajaya? What is our new KSN doing? I hope our KSN Dato Ali Hamsa does not identify himself with any society which has a tendency to put its women in burqas, purdahs and other such tents and blankets. I hope the KSN will appreciate the urgency  - we dont need the Talibanisation of Putrajaya. Please issue a 'surat pekeliling' or whatever is necessary to nip this Rafflesia which unfortunately has already bloomed in Putrajaya.



As I have said many, many times before the people who are entrusted to uphold these ridiculous religious rules are often the lowest educated members of our society

I am sure that security guard at the Energy Commission's Diamond Building does not hold a PhD. Does she even have an SPM? It is always the least educated members of society (inlcuding the lebai surau plus the ostat fellows) who act as these moral guardians of religion.  That is another reason why the Islamic countries get screwed up.  The dunggus are put in charge of religion. 

Pakatan Demolished Seven Hindu Temples, Altars

Posted: 29 Nov 2012 07:29 PM PST

This is from today's Star:



Smashed: A MPSP officer demolishing the altar at Gopi's house in Sepang.


Indians outraged over demolition of Hindu altar in house
  • Sepang Council's demolition Hindu altar in house cause  uproar Indian community.
  • 30 officers went to house Nov 20 demolished altar, within the  compound.
  • House owner received notice from council to demolish it 
  • "went to council to appeal and was told it would be considered. 
  • we have to pay a RM250 daily fine 
  • "officers arrived without notice and demolished it," 
  • Sakthi Association said common for Hindus and Chinese to have altars.
  • ".. Selangor Government, of which PAS is a part not tolerant towards Hindu 
  • under Pakatan Rakyat, Hindus, Buddhist and Taoists cannot have altars at home?" 
  • State EXCO Dr Xavier Jeyakumar said local councils had the right to take action 
  • altar not a religious place as no prayers or ceremonies held there.
  • Sivarraajh described Dr Xavier's response as "nonsense" 
  • "Is he saying that those who erect altars inside their homes have contravened laws?" 
  • Pakatan had promised not demolish religious place it came to power in 2009 
  • since then, seven temples had been torn down.

Well Xavier Jayakumar is not a Hindu.  I wish I can say here that this is what you get for voting for Pakatan.  But there are   By Laws that we must respect.

This is a concrete structure that is not part of the original house. It therefore needs an approval. The family should just submit an application to build a concrete structure in their house. Whether they wish to use it as an altar, as a storage box or whatever has to be properly submitted to the local council and properly approved. That should be the way. 

Most local councils will be in a position to approve such requests. You cannot build them too big. Neither can you do things like burn big fires in them. The odd joss stick or two, the kemenyan etc is usually tolerated in Malaysia. (Though I seriously think we need a proper sit down and a proper way to do these things. Please have consideration for our multi racial and multi religious neighbours)

But whether BN or Pakatan, they still have to manage things.  

We have already seen in the few States they are ruling the corruption is worse than the BN. They claim they are angels but they actually stink worse. They may have promised not to demolish temples but you can see the picture yourself. That guy is swinging a sledge hammer to destroy that altar - inside a house. 
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