OutSyed The Box

OutSyed The Box

7. Tunku Aziz : Tyrant, Demagogue, “Fishy”, No Decency, Liar, No Respect, Corrupt, Biadap.

Posted: 16 May 2012 02:12 AM PDT


From The Star here

  • Tunku Aziz : 'Tyranny Of Demagogue'
  • Lim Guan Eng  a "different kettle of fish".
  • "relief ..being freed from the tyranny of a demagogue,"
  • against the attitude .. party secretary-general.'
  • "Guan Eng did not have the decency
  • "..the duty of the leader but he did nothing."
  • Bersih ..knew it would end the way it did
  • "party sec-gen, .. falsely accused me .."
  • Zairil Khir Johari ..stated stipend of RM50,000 
  • "..totally insulting. .. no sense of respect.."
  • an attempt to bribe him.
  • "This man has no sense of decency.
  • it is biadap
  • I will not work with this man."

6. Tunku Aziz : Pakatan Has No Chance Of Getting Putrajaya

Posted: 16 May 2012 01:33 AM PDT

From The Star here:


So do you think the (Pakatan) coalition can make it to Putrajaya?

Tunku Aziz : "At the moment I think this is as close as they will ever get because the so-called coalition is very fragile as they have not been able to resolve some very fundamental questions

For example, the Muslim state. I do not know how they are going to resolve this because PAS will not abandon it. It is the central pillar of their religious and political beliefs. It's like asking someone to abandon their principles.

How can you go into battle when your strategy is compromised by different ideologies?"

5. Tunku Aziz : DAP's Cronyism, Cliques, Breaking The Law

Posted: 16 May 2012 01:29 AM PDT


From The Star here :
  • Well, for example... one of the key party members set up the Rocket Cafe in Petaling Jaya, and this was done without Council approval being obtained. 

  • And when other members of the party raised this, it was just pushed under the rug and no action was taken. To me, this is not on.

  • Although people say "oh, it is a small matter", to me, it is an important fundamental issue because you have broken your own by-laws. 

  • And if you are cavalier in your attitude to the law that you have made then, to me, it shows very sad state of affairs and bad judgment.

  • I raised the issue, but you could see that it was not something they were comfortable with. 

  • And if you see recently Dr Cheah's reports in The Star (Damansara Utama assemblyman Dr Cheah Wing Yin), this is the same kind of issue.

  • ..but there are others (in DAP) who you know will just go ahead in breaking their own rules. If you do this, sooner or later people are going to ask, can these people really be trusted with a bigger job?

  • I think what Dr Cheah has highlighted is probably the tip of the problems.

  • You either have it or you don't have it. For example, when the council decides to take action against illegal hawkers, one of our key figures would intervene to say don't touch these people; don't take any action because they are party supporters.

  • The party is obviously not ready to accommodate someone like me. I'm known for my plain speaking and I cannot just suppress my comments or feelings when things are done in a way that, to me, aren't ethical.

  • Nine people came to see me, we sat down and had a drink together. These people they have tried to, well, transform DAP at their level. 

  • They find there is so much cronyism, so many cliques. You don't belong to the leadership clique, you're out, You make an unfavourable comment, you're out.

  • Chow (Chow Kon Yeow), head of DAP Penang, sent message saying I respect your decision. He should have been Chief Minister yet they parachuted Guan Eng in. 

4. Tunku Aziz : I Have Never Been An Admirer Of Anwar Ibrahim

Posted: 16 May 2012 01:17 AM PDT


From The Star here :

Do you think that he was under pressure from Anwar Ibrahim or someone else to do all this?

"..Kit Siang did say that there's a lot of pressure from Pakatan Rakyat. And at that point I said to him, I did not join Pakatan Rakyat.

You seemed reluctant to talk about Anwar the other night. Any particular reason?

  "I have never been an admirer of Anwar. I don't even know  him. 

  I feel liberated from the tyranny of demagogy. It's a blessed relief"

3. Tunku Aziz On The Barisan Nasional Government

Posted: 16 May 2012 01:17 AM PDT


From The Star here :

What about the recent reforms made by the current (BN) government?

"I have never made it a habit to condemn everything someone does, whether it's government or opposition or individuals because I believe that it's not all bad. By the same token, not everything is good. We want the government to take into account the feelings of the people, what it is the people want.

I see the whole thing not as a product that you can pick up off the shelf of a supermarket. This whole thing is the government trying to respond to the needs of the people. I see this as a series of processes.  This is why I said they may not be perfect, a lot of that is still work in progress, but a process needs a little time. We have waited for so long. .. So for the first time we have a government who for reasons of its own is listening." 

2. Tunku Aziz : "Biadap" Guan Eng Offered RM50,000 "Bribe"

Posted: 16 May 2012 01:17 AM PDT


From The Star here.

Tunku Aziz : "But what really made me finally decide to leave although I was thinking very seriously about what I should do was last Sunday at about 8.43AM, I had a phone call from Guan Eng. I don't know whether to describe it as an act of contrition or whether he felt that I needed to be compensated for the loss of the Senate seat.

He offered me - now this really staggered my imagination - offered me a senior fellowship at the Penang Institute, dangling travel as one of the attractions... This was followed up yesterday, after I had made up my mind.  His aide rang me at lunchtime yesterday to repeat his boss's offer, but added that this time there would be a stipend of RM50,000 a year, along with other things. I regard this offer as totally insulting.

Totally totally insulting, and I could only conclude that it had come from someone who had no sense and not even a modicum of respect. Did he think I was that kind of person? What an insult. You rebuked me for the wrong reason, you removed my senate position, and then you offered a fellowship at Penang Institute. This man has gone out of his senses.

This was the clincher as far as I was concerned. This man has no sense of decency, in other words.

It's a bribe, it's a salve for my hurt pride. 

To me, as a senior person... I'm trying to find an English word for this behaviour, and I cant. The only word is a Malay word, and it's "biadap". I mean, that's what really made me decide I will not work with this man. 

1. How Kit Siang And Guan Eng L*watted Tunku Aziz

Posted: 16 May 2012 01:17 AM PDT


From The Star here 

Tunku Aziz :  "I sent Guan Eng a little note from my iPhone that this (renewal of his Senatorship) was coming up and if you are thinking of extending my term, I am available to serve and that was all.  

He said yes, okay, and then he very kindly said to me at one of our recent CEC meetings that he would certainly put my name up and in fact he was going to announce it at the CEC but was reminded that he couldn't, shouldn't do it, because the matter had to go back to DAP Penang and then to the state government. 

Then after the statement on Bersih, Kit Siang saw me and said it was unfortunate with the senatorship coming up that this had come about. He said it may be a bit difficult for them to nominate me again. .."

Yes Master

Posted: 15 May 2012 07:19 AM PDT




  • "I think the time has come for me to take a hard, very serious look at my own position within the party. Given the very wide differences now, which are irreconcilable, there is no alternative but for me to seek to withdraw, with some dignity left.
  • "I found it extremely difficult to support anyone breaking the law," he said 
  • "..allegations that he was a "traitor to the party", Tunku Aziz said "But this seems to be a standard script for people who differ from their views." 
  • '.. his tenure as senator had not been renewed as a direct result of his statements against the Bersih rally last month.
  • ".. Lim Kit Siang's book, The Right To Differ, he said he had believed the party was one that could accept dissent.
  • On the Barisan Nasional Government, Tunku Aziz said he felt they were on the right track.  "They have put in place transformation programmes which will bring about the sort of change that we have been yearning for and fighting for," he said, adding that the Pakatan Rakyat coalition, on the other hand, did not have any experience.

Here are some pictures.





Tengku Razaleigh and Aspan Alias are both gentlemen.  People with class.  And I always thought Aspan had a dignified look about him as well. (Something is not right in this picture though. Is it the watch ? Hmm..)

Jangan lupa kami bro. Dont forget us so easily. 
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