OutSyed The Box

OutSyed The Box


Tariq Ramadan And The Quran

Posted: 30 Apr 2012 03:10 AM PDT


Folks,  this is another reason why I keep saying that the Muslims are in very very deep trouble.  Not only does the average everyday Muslim NOT know what is inside the Quran  but the so called Muslim scholars (nauzubillah - May Allah protect us) - do not seem to know what is in the Quran as well.

This is a video of the contemporary Muslim scholar (nauzubillah) Tariq Ramadan.  This is a video of some interview with him. You dont have to listen to the whole video (unless you are some kind of masochist who loves pain) but you can drag your curser to the 30th minute of this You Tube. 

Between the 30th and 32nd minutes Tariq Ramadan says - quite matter of factly -  without batting an eyelid that the Quran prescribes the punishment of stoning the adulterers as well as the punishment of death for the apostate.


This is a terrible fitnah against the Quran because there are no such verses found anywhere in the Quran.

The Quran does not call for the stoning of adulterers to death. Neither does the Quran prescribe any kind of punishment for the apostate. There are no such things in the Quran.

Here is a test anyone of you can do. 

The next time you meet any religious fellwo, especially the jual air jampi, sekolah pondok type fellows, just ask them how many surahs (chapters) there are in the Quran. They will not even know these basics. 

But can we blame them? When even "world renowned" scholars (nauzubillah) like Tariq Ramadan do not know what is and what is not in the Quran ?

For your information, Tariq Ramadan's book used to be required reading among Muslim students in some universities (when 'you know who' was almost in full power). Yes, Liwat is a fan of Tariq Ramadan.  

He once publicly recommended that Dr Mahathir should read Tariq Ramadan's book - a wafer thin paper back book with a basic introduction to Islam which sold for RM7/= at the bookshops.  

That itself gives you an idea of Liwat's knowledge of Islam. He reads wafer thin paperbacks written by "scholars" (nauzubillah) who dont even know what is in the Quran.

Mat Salleh's Abandoning Ship

Posted: 30 Apr 2012 01:15 AM PDT


Here is a video where you can see the homo sapien signalling to an Indian fellow who then proceeds to remove the barriers. There is no tear gas. Do you see any tear gas. The homo sapien is smiling and gesturing. The sun is shining, The birds are singing.  No provocation by the Police. In fact no Police in sight. 

That was the problem - it was too peaceful. Peaceful is not good. They wanted chaos. So they created chaos. You can see for yourself the crowd shouting and whooping like monkeys once they pushed aside the barricades.




Anyway folks, I was having tea with an ex-Liwat supporter yesterday. Local guy, Malaysian with interesting overseas contacts.  This is a picture of Ebrahim Rasool - the present South African ambassador to Washington.  This man in the picture used to be a very close friend of Liwat as well.




But recently it has transpired that he has developed some allergies towards Liwat.  The talk among the South African brotherhood connection is 'stay away from Liwat'.  Yup - his old buddies are at last wisening up to Liwat.  The South Africans even said that some of them knew about Liwat's activities and advised him to turn over a new leaf. Instead Liwat just asked the leaf to turn over. 

You may think this is not relevant. Well, on the contrary. There used to be a large number of the religious freaks outside the country (the so called international Islamic network) who were also conned into thinking that Liwat was an angel. Now they know the real devils from the angels.  This international Islamic network which used to support Liwat overseas is now dwindling very fast.  That is why they are getting more desperate. We are going to see even more riots. Desperate people will do desperate things. 


And there is more. Recently Liwat has also become persona non grata in more than one Western Embassy here in KL, especially with one very "busy body" Western Embassy. The ambassador (not High Commisioner) of that country here in KL does not include Liwat on their invitation list at all. Not only that, in their programs and events, specific instructions have been given to not even invite Liwat's supporters any more.  I got this from someone who works with these embassies.


Here is one more bit.  Folks in the know say that this time around there were many Indonesians hired to get involved in the riots on Saturday.  I think that is where the smashing Police cars, Police motorbikes and smashing public property came into play. This is Indonesian style street rioting - sudah berjangkit.  But who are these Indons and how were they roped in? 


First, read this news from The Star :



"In KOTA BARU, PAS spiritual leader Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat admitted to giving a personal contribution to some of the people who took part in Saturday's rally.  Nik Aziz, who did not take part in the assembly, described his contribution as "a personal gesture", Bernama reported him as saying."
So Nik Aziz paid money. Takkan Hadi Awang did not pay money. What about Liwat? There is nothing new here except in the amount of money paid. Bernama spoke to some PAS people from Kedah who said this time around they were paid more money ie RM150.00 each. If the monkeys dont get paid, they wont come.  And they could only muster 20,000 people??


The day started with the Liwat supporters saying one million people had gathered in KL. Malaysiakini said 300,000. Then someone said 75,000. The British Broadcasting Corporation reported 25,000.  Our guys said anything between 15,000 to 20,000. The undercover cops were easily about 5000. Did you know that the Swiss something Hotel nearby was fully occupied by the undercover folks  :)  All those rioters running in the correct directions, away from the Dataran were possibly undercover guys.  They have to be smart to control the crowd.  


And minus the hired Indons the actual number of rioters was actually much less. Their efforts to rally their own supporters is failing.  Must pay them more money.  Back to the rioting Indons, here is a strange news report from a few days ago from The Star as well :





Indonesian Foreign Ministry: Dead Indonesians' organs not removed (Update)


PETALING JAYA: A second autopsy carried out on three Indonesian men who were shot dead by Malaysian police last month showed no evidence of their organs being harvested, Indonesia's Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa said.


He told a press conference in Jakarta on Friday that the autopsies were carried out by a forensics team from the Indonesian police and Mataram University medical faculty on Thursday.


The autopsy reports showed that the organs of the three men were still intact, he said.


The Indonesian media has been reporting allegations from families of the three men about "unusual stitches around the eyes and cuts on the chest and abdomen of the men."


The three, who were armed with machetes, were shot dead at a housing area near Port Dickson on Mar 24.


Their bodies, which arrived in Indonesia on April 5 and were buried, were exhumed to enable the second autopsy to be carried out at Bhayangkara Hospital in Lombok.


A strange story had been circulated (coincidentally just a few days before Bersih 3.0) among the Indonesian community that organs had been forcibly harvested from some Indonesian criminals who had been shot dead by the Malaysian Police.  The story created a stir and was played up by the Indonesian media.  Then immediately after the Bersih this silly story died just as suddenly.


The person who gave me this information and made the conection (another someone who was very close to Liwat at one time) said that this  "harvesting Indon body parts"  story was a false flag designed to get Indons into the riot on Saturday. I hope the Police will explore this bit of news as well. Nothing is impossible for Liwat. These are desperate times for them.  Lets be on the lookout folks.  They will do even more desperate things.


There is also the story about the pilgrim from Malabar who was on umrah in Mecca and what he said about Liwat to another very famous Dato from Malaysia. But maybe another time. 

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